• hereforgoodtakes@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 days ago

    This feels like a no true scotsman thing. I get it because I don’t like “conservatism” either, but are we going to call Stalin a conservative?

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 days ago

      100% yes. Stalin was absolutely a conservative. He even targeted and murdered progressives. You will find that neither communism nor socialism require progressives to be in charge in order to exist.

      Modern China is another great example of conservative-led communism.

      • hereforgoodtakes@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 days ago

        But does “conservative” to you just mean violent, repressive, and pro-authoritarian?

        I’m against all those things, and I think Stalin and Hitler have a lot in common despite Stalin being “left” and “Hitler” being right, but I dont see how it serves you to call everyone who acts violently and unjustifiably towards their people a conservative.

        • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 days ago

          Stalin was socially conservative, the opposite of socially progressive. That is how I am using the term. The same way that Russian and Chinese governments are led by conservatives and not progressives.