Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:36 Sponsor: TuxCare
01:46 KDE’s AI policy
06:42 Existing AI policies
10:06 Going further on AI
12:58 My stance on AI
17:05 FOSS projects: yes or no to AI?
28:02 Sponsor: Tuxedo Computer
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:36 Sponsor: TuxCare
01:46 KDE’s AI policy
06:42 Existing AI policies
10:06 Going further on AI
12:58 My stance on AI
17:05 FOSS projects: yes or no to AI?
28:02 Sponsor: Tuxedo Computer
https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/117322654185564343
I prefer this response to Gerard’s rant:
MaddieM added even more that I thought was salient in another response:
I’d argue that if we normalize people barging into random threads and accusing others of facism, that would make everybody feel unsafe. Remember that once you normalize this behavior, the fascists can use it too.
The person who barged in making public accusations, is the one that created a visible scandal. That’s why there’s a proper channel for reports. Precisely to prevent this sort of mess.
MaddieM advocated for removing the post, that’s not even close to “normalizing” it imo
Just removing the post without any punishment to the user, just means the user can do it again.
A ban is fairly harsh I admit, but usually bans only happen for repeat offenders. I don’t know the full context here.
we should normalize accusing fascists of fascism
Yeah. The point is that it can be a slippery slope. Everybody (myself included, I have to be honest bcs well, I’m a very stupid human after all) will be calling anything we don’t like something fascist, thus making it a worthless term. That’s what actual fascism want.
Thus, we should be way more careful with the use of that word.
You can report people all you like. Just use proper channels to do so.
We should normalize due process.
Normalizing people making up their own rules and exacting their own justice is how you end up with https://lemmy.world/post/52260289
The fascists don’t care. They’ll work to normalize whatever they want regardless
Why not ban person A? Being a nazi is a rule violation, but reporting people by barging in on unrelated threads (instead of simply contacting the mods) is also a rule violation.
Somebody else can report the nazi via proper channels, and person A learns the proper way to report people.
person A learning anything is useless if they are banned
Teaches them for any future accounts they make on other forums
Damn what a completely out of touch response. Many people point out that this was basically a badly handled abuse report that a user brought to a main thread instead of reporting, however that does not and never did justify the original and continued ban of the first person to report on it.
I am especially galled by the “and ad hominem attacks on another user (even if it turned out they deserved it).” bit. Dude, maybe someone’s motivations matter. Acting like attacking someone’s motivations are always out of place is part of what lets this kind of shit fester and grow. Everyone has motivations, and a lot of people’s motivations are deeply unsavory.
Bruh my Kubuntu minimal install. Welp. *sigh que sera sera, we all move on sometime.
Budgie
Bye bye KDE.