The EU is setting up a high-level group of political and military leaders from member states, Ukraine and the UK to speed up efforts to close Europe’s defence capability gaps amid rising Russian threats.
The EU is setting up a high-level group of political and military leaders from member states, Ukraine and the UK to speed up efforts to close Europe’s defence capability gaps amid rising Russian threats.
Because it always devolves into that, regardless how they try to hide their end goal.
Incorrect. Investing into defense technologies, making plans, making sure troops have proper equipment and enough of it, reduces casualties. It is not some sort of secret plan to kill millions by sending them to machine gun fire. Its exactly the opposite of that.
I’ll believe it when i see it.
It still doesn’t mean there won’t be forced conscription, doesn’t mean you can’t be grabbed on the street and sent to the front lines with minimal training and all that fancy technology won’t save you if you have no experience using it.
Having credible defense capabilities alone is enough to keep russia from attacking. So this investment into military tech and capabilities in on itself will make “forced conscription” less likely. So if that’s what you are afraid of, you should be in support of all this and more investment.
Also, modern militaries don’t send untrained troops to use equipment they don’t know how to use, unless they are extremely desperate. And I mean, about to be overrun and conquered levels of desperation.
I think you have some sort of conspiracy brain thinking going on. European countries and their leaders actually do understand that throwing untrained people into a meat grinder is bad for the country, for the economy, for the elites, everyone really. That is exactly the reason why they are investing in this stuff now. They want to keep doing what they’ve been doing so far, keep getting richer and richer. They don’t want to lose the main resource that is making them all those millions that they love so much. That resource is the population. They want to keep peace and keep reaping in the money, thats where the safe and steady profits are. So they are taking actions to keep that status quo.
So, in conclusion, with these investments, you are much, much less likely to be grabbed off the streets. And even if you are grabbed off the streets, you’ll probably have a few years of warning and plenty of opportunity to escape to a safer place. If you somehow fail to do that, you will still be trained, you can probably get some easy job, like a cook or something. And if you do end up grabbed off the street and thrown into the front lines with no training, the situation is so dire that you might as well go die at the front, since you’d die anyway soon, once the enemy has taken over your home.
Lol.
That is the PR spin. Casualties were reduced in great extent because of massive use of private mercenaries and “local allies”. Its an accounting trick.
What the hell are you on about? PR spin?
They are investing into technologies that will reduce casualties in the event of war, hopefully will deter war completely, thus making sure there is no casualties, at all. How is that a PR spin? Are you suggesting they are secretly planning to actually kill as many people as possible? Stop beating around the bush and say straight way you are talking about, currently you are not making any sense.
What I’m getting at is two things:
So I’m very sceptical that in event of war we will all be fine. Also I see no conspiracy behind any of the claims.
Furthermore I’m not claiming that there should be no defense spending. It just worries me that things could in fact go out of control like they did in Ukraine for Russians and to lesser extent USA&Israel in Iran.
I think we are pairing defense spending surge with no accompanying strategic policy. Where is EU on Ukraine issue? Iran issue? Its just expected to foot the bill.
russia has always relied on producing more but lower quality. Comparing them is not a 1:1 thing. But if you do compare them like that, the difference is not as big as one would think. Sure, they produce more, but 1. they are in war economy, 2. they’ve always produced more and 3. the differences is not that big, in fact, I’d argue that russia should be producing way more if they intend to have their material advantage to be any way meaningful
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nato-weapons-production-us-germany/33482927.html
That’s not the point. Nobody will be “fine” in the event of a war. The point is to 1. make the probability of war as low as possible, that means having a credible amount of defensive capabilities to make the enemy think real long and hard about attacking. And 2. if war does come, having modern stuff is better than having outdated stuff. But the main thing is to have stuff. And at this point its stupid to start producing stuff from decades ago, might as well keep the current production rolling and investing into modern and new stuff.
Also, talking about wunderwaffes is a bit a disingenuous, nobody is suggesting making invisible space lasers or thinking about building one weapons system that will win the war. The money wont be spent on one or two systems that the leaders wrongly think will be enough. The military planners know that you need combined arms that are proven to work. So unless you have evidence about plans to waste money on stupid bullshit, I’m going to disregard that complaint.
I’m not sure what you mean with “getting out of control”. If russia attacks, I consider that “getting out of control” and if that happens, that’s precisely the time we will need all the investment, research and production we can get. Better start preparing now so we don’t have to be caught with our pants in our ankles, swinging our dicks in a vain effort to scare them off.