That’s a rather weak argument. Rich people travel to plenty of dangerous places. Those places typically then develop high class resorts with security to attend to them
Don’t mistake my comment to be saying the US is right about Cuba. It absolutely isn’t. I just don’t think “people travel there” is much of an indicator of anything
It’s not just in-bound tourism, I probably made the mistake of emphasizing the cruises. Notice I said that Cubans from outside of America were able to travel to visit family, and vice-versa. If it was such a hellscape, why would people choose to travel back to Cuba after leaving?
If it was not a hellscape why would Cubans still be leaving to declare asylum elsewhere?
Both that claim and your claim are verifiable and true. So clearly there’s something going on that’s not as simple as “is this country a good or bad place to live”. The answer seems to be it depends. Clearly there is some kind of wealth disparity within the country.
Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn’t explain modern asylum seekers very well.
To be fair I think a lot of Cuba’s struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.
In fact; is committing a fallacy of intransitivity, that’s a type of non sequitur fallacy.
And that’s how it is in Cuba and in my country too, and that’s why I’m able to believe that about Cuba in the first place.
The Cuban and Venezuelan governments are the same: the vast majority of the population is below the global thresholds of extreme poverty, in a very precarious situation, where basic services do not work most of the time (in my country we are privileged compared to Cuba; here at least water can reach us from time to time, even if it takes a long time [normally more than a month; although the duty is that it is always present], and the electricity is cut off 8 hours a day [at least that is how it is in the state] where alive], but there is almost no drinking water service and the normal thing is that there is no electricity; they can be without electricity service for more than 18 hours); but obviously they are not going to demonstrate that just as in Brazil they are not going to show you the Favelas, they directly create tourist areas that are a bubble isolated from the reality of the country. It is simply a political ploy to pretend that everything is fine, a facade.
That’s a rather weak argument. Rich people travel to plenty of dangerous places. Those places typically then develop high class resorts with security to attend to them
Don’t mistake my comment to be saying the US is right about Cuba. It absolutely isn’t. I just don’t think “people travel there” is much of an indicator of anything
It’s not just in-bound tourism, I probably made the mistake of emphasizing the cruises. Notice I said that Cubans from outside of America were able to travel to visit family, and vice-versa. If it was such a hellscape, why would people choose to travel back to Cuba after leaving?
If it was not a hellscape why would Cubans still be leaving to declare asylum elsewhere?
Both that claim and your claim are verifiable and true. So clearly there’s something going on that’s not as simple as “is this country a good or bad place to live”. The answer seems to be it depends. Clearly there is some kind of wealth disparity within the country.
Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn’t explain modern asylum seekers very well.
To be fair I think a lot of Cuba’s struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.
In fact; is committing a fallacy of intransitivity, that’s a type of non sequitur fallacy.
And that’s how it is in Cuba and in my country too, and that’s why I’m able to believe that about Cuba in the first place.
The Cuban and Venezuelan governments are the same: the vast majority of the population is below the global thresholds of extreme poverty, in a very precarious situation, where basic services do not work most of the time (in my country we are privileged compared to Cuba; here at least water can reach us from time to time, even if it takes a long time [normally more than a month; although the duty is that it is always present], and the electricity is cut off 8 hours a day [at least that is how it is in the state] where alive], but there is almost no drinking water service and the normal thing is that there is no electricity; they can be without electricity service for more than 18 hours); but obviously they are not going to demonstrate that just as in Brazil they are not going to show you the Favelas, they directly create tourist areas that are a bubble isolated from the reality of the country. It is simply a political ploy to pretend that everything is fine, a facade.