It’s not just financial though. Mississippi spends around $12k per student, and Oregon spends about $17k - that’s over 40% more per kid. California spends $24k.
The way we do schools needs to be fixed top-to-bottom
You’re probably right. I just hate that teachers have to ask for basic school supply donations to do their job. For example, glue sticks aren’t something a kindergarten teacher should ever need to worry they will run out of. Give these people the resources to be successful. What do you think needs to change?
Man, I don’t know. A lot of the extra expenditure is probably going to special needs services and new educational tech/programs. Between the two, in more skeptical of the latter.
Walk into any kindergarten around here and you’ll see big screen TVs in front and an iPad for each kid. I’m sure the bigger expense is licensing the “Alpha-friends” show or whatever and I’d love to see that go.
I also think COVID was hugely disruptive - not only to the kid’s learning but also to parent expectation that their kids try in school - Oregon has terrible parental support of kid attendance and learning. Parents need to blame their kids for failing more
As for solutions, I think we need to scrap No Child Left Behind. Leave kids behind in their last grade until they pass - I think MS did that, some say to inflate the scores. Loading teachers with students that don’t have a foundation makes it worse for everyone. Tying standardized test scores to funding also turns a metric into a target and worsens thing.
I don’t know man. It sucks and I’m just an idiot on the 'verse, but after seeing the ‘whole language’ approach fail so hard, I’m also skeptical of experts
It seems like the bad education is by design (minus Covid times). I think an instant improvement people would see would be to fund the hiring of more teachers and ensure teachers are all making a decent wage.
If we are to keep class sizes 20-30 students then it would be appropriate to have 2-3 teachers in the classroom. I’m mainly referring to elementary schools here because kids need time to develop focus and studying skills.
Extra staff gives students the opportunity to get more person teaching when needed and also allows teachers more free time to focus on teaching. If a teacher had to get to school early to oversee students on the playground before school, then helps with drop off/pickup after school and then has to go home and grade papers that night, they won’t have time and energy to improve their lessons. The system as a whole seems broken but I’m just an idiot like yourself lol. This is my outside perspective.
It’s not just financial though. Mississippi spends around $12k per student, and Oregon spends about $17k - that’s over 40% more per kid. California spends $24k. The way we do schools needs to be fixed top-to-bottom
You’re probably right. I just hate that teachers have to ask for basic school supply donations to do their job. For example, glue sticks aren’t something a kindergarten teacher should ever need to worry they will run out of. Give these people the resources to be successful. What do you think needs to change?
Man, I don’t know. A lot of the extra expenditure is probably going to special needs services and new educational tech/programs. Between the two, in more skeptical of the latter. Walk into any kindergarten around here and you’ll see big screen TVs in front and an iPad for each kid. I’m sure the bigger expense is licensing the “Alpha-friends” show or whatever and I’d love to see that go.
I also think COVID was hugely disruptive - not only to the kid’s learning but also to parent expectation that their kids try in school - Oregon has terrible parental support of kid attendance and learning. Parents need to blame their kids for failing more
As for solutions, I think we need to scrap No Child Left Behind. Leave kids behind in their last grade until they pass - I think MS did that, some say to inflate the scores. Loading teachers with students that don’t have a foundation makes it worse for everyone. Tying standardized test scores to funding also turns a metric into a target and worsens thing.
I don’t know man. It sucks and I’m just an idiot on the 'verse, but after seeing the ‘whole language’ approach fail so hard, I’m also skeptical of experts
It seems like the bad education is by design (minus Covid times). I think an instant improvement people would see would be to fund the hiring of more teachers and ensure teachers are all making a decent wage.
If we are to keep class sizes 20-30 students then it would be appropriate to have 2-3 teachers in the classroom. I’m mainly referring to elementary schools here because kids need time to develop focus and studying skills.
Extra staff gives students the opportunity to get more person teaching when needed and also allows teachers more free time to focus on teaching. If a teacher had to get to school early to oversee students on the playground before school, then helps with drop off/pickup after school and then has to go home and grade papers that night, they won’t have time and energy to improve their lessons. The system as a whole seems broken but I’m just an idiot like yourself lol. This is my outside perspective.