• MushuChupacabra@piefed.world
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    19 hours ago

    Science is used to help Describe, Explain, Predict, and Control any phenomena studied. The Describe and Explain part would be the pure science, and the Predict and Control parts are the applied science part.

    Instead of letting a Flat Earther moo on and on about the Describe and Explain part, force them to show devices, procedures or processes that have been created out of Flat Earther Descriptions and Explanations of reality.

    If their observations are accurate, they should be able to demonstrate or generate something useful from their special knowledge. It should be something that simply cannot be generated using conventional Round Earth Descriptions or Explanations.

    Tl;dr: Flat Earthers are unable to demonstrate practical application of their special knowledge that improves any process.

    If they don’t produce, the discussion is over.

    • Programmer Belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      17 hours ago

      Look, they can make experiments, the problem is that every single one they do proves the earth is round.

      I love the experiment flat earthers used in a Netflix documentary. They put a light source and two panels with small holes at the same height in them to focus the light. If the earth is flat, a camera would capture the light if it is at the same height as the last hole:

      Picture showing a flat earth with the holes and camera at the same height

      And if the earth is round, the camera would need to be higher to capture the light

      The diagram now shows the man at the end holding the camera over his head to capture the light

      When they checked the experiment at the same height, there was no light. Thinking it was a problem with the setup, they raised the camera and the light appeared. Their comment was “Huh” or something similar.

      As far as I know, there are no flat earth explanations for this result.

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      18 hours ago

      Maybe they’re just 4-dimensional, thinking 3-dimensional, and when they’re in 3d- space, it’s 2-dimensional for them?

      • MushuChupacabra@piefed.world
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        17 hours ago

        I’m more interested in the put up or shut up, and less interested in the alleged internal struggle that prevents them from doing so.

        Produce.