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    There are a lot of folks saying that Bluesky’s recent outages were due to the vast amounts of vibe coding in their systems. It was days of not working.

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        There was an article a bit ago explaining that most AI companies are making a 95% loss. You know, spending 100, receiving 5 loss. All that debt is going to mean the price for AI is about 20 times lower than it needs to be just to break even. The software teams that came to rely on AI to save costs will soon enough find themselves on the hook for this mountain of debt. Enshitification is real. Enshitification is coming. AI will not stay cheap, convenient and free of advertising.

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          People forget this. Yes it has real use in very narrow contexts, yes it may get slightly better, but right now they are JUL getting the kids addicted to vapes and it is drawing ungodly amounts of power and electricity to do so.

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              Let’s hope the winners are slightly less ghoulish than our Oil barons.

              What a foolish hope!

              $200,000,000,000 debt.
              Who well pay it?
              You talk like gravity doesn’t exist!

              You’re wrong if you think that it won’t be heavily reliant AI customers like software companies who spend five years removing codewriting skills from their workforce and building up technical debt in their codebase because no one has to understand it in those five years and there’s a lot of subtle, hard to spot bugs that got through code review because humans simply don’t make those kinds of errors and no one ever had to spot one in their life before claude came along.

              Did you think that enshitification wouldn’t affect the product? Yesterday’s computers and cars were easy to disassemble to replace parts. Now it’s much, much harder, and it’s very common to void your warranty if you do that. Today’s ai generated code is easy to tinker with and you can do what you like with your end product. Why would it stay that way? Why wouldn’t they engineer it to make that harder? It’s not difficult to make code confusing by changing variable names. I could fuck up your codebase for humans by simply swapping names like productSKU and customerID, let alone writing obfuscated code for any purpose whatsoever and with whatever variable names I like.

              Some software companies are outsourcing their talent to AI behemoths with mountains of debt to recoup. Guess who’s going to pay the debt! And what’s the point of such a company in the long run? Why are you speedrunning paying to replace yourself?

              There will be an AI crash and “consolidation”, meaning a switch to monopolies or near monopolies. Some companies are shedding institutional knowledge and programming skill like it was waste water. Once dependence comes, value extraction will follow it like disease follows unvaccinated infection.

              There is already $200bn in debt and growing rapidly. The shareholders aren’t going to be paying it. The ai customers are.

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                The shareholders aren’t going to be paying it. The ai customers are.

                It’s much more likely that the banks and their insurers will be left holding the bag, and they’ll then be bailed out by the taxpayers.

                There’s already negative ROI at even the current loss-leader prices.

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            The meat you eat has more of an impact on the environment than electricity from AI usage

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              Two things can both be wrong. And removing something that’s been in place for millennia and deeply embedded in the culture is likely to be more challenging than eliminating something that is still more planned than actually materialized.

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              Whataboutism doesn’t work here.

              Plus the basis of generalized use is founded upon willful mass copytheft.

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        Over that 10x as long timeframe, would they have experienced less or more total downtime with traditionally coded software?

        i have a homework for you: if you ask professional chef how to keep the cheese on pizza, are they going to tell you to use some glue? once you figure out an answer to that, you should be able to answer your original question.