“We sent them guns to the protesters, a lot of them," Trump said in a telephone interview [with Fox News]. “We sent them through the Kurds. They kept them, so we sent more to the protesters, a lot of them."

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      Singapore and China being notable exceptions. And few fuck up as badly as Iran.

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        China’s had pretty bad periods too. Ironically, capitalism is what lifted them out of poverty, they just did it slightly smarter than most. Their size also means they can just ignore things like IP without getting sued, which was great for them when they were still playing catch up when it comes to technology.

        Basically it’s the planned economy that makes things very hard to get right. China realized that, which is why they regulate the economy less than the soviet union for an example.

        Not too up to date on Singapore so I can’t really comment on that. But I think they also keep a fairly liberal economy?

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          Mao set up the base for china’s massive growth, some reading will help.

          Market sucks.

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            Mate, Mao ran a genocide on his people. China’s growth has been from efficiently using its cheap labour and the government protecting its corporations from the outside world (you pretty much can’t sue a Chinese company and win as a foreigner) and the ability to throw its weight around in general.

            Corporations are still kings in China, it’s just that they have to stay loyal to the party.

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              it’s just that they have to stay loyal to the party Based

              Mao didnt ran any genocide, some of his actions were stupid but he didnt do it intentionally. Mao is easily top 5 humans of 20th century

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                An original estimate of the final death toll ranged from 15 to 40 million. According to Frank Dikötter, a chair professor of humanities at the University of Hong Kong and the author of Mao’s Great Famine, a book which details the Great Leap Forward and the consequences of the strong armed implementation of the economic reform, the total number of people who were killed in the famine which lasted from 1958 to 1962 ran upwards of 45 million. Of those who were killed in the famine, 6–8% of them were often tortured first and then prematurely killed by the government, 2% of them committed suicide and 5% of them died in Mao’s labor camps which were built to hold those who were labelled “enemies of the people”

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                  Red scare propaganda, China’s population doubled under Mao

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                Well I mean there’s millions that were killed deliberately and then tens of millions via stupid policies. “Oops I didn’t know people would starve” doesn’t really absolve you of mass murder.

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                  Not like he was the sole decision making figure but ok, “killed deliberately” ones mostly deserved it

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          Before Deng, China was pretty bad, absolutely. I am no fan of dictatorships, but economically China since then has been pretty dang smart. They have bet long term on all the right techs. Look at e.g. batteries, electric cars, and solar cells right now.

          With the very notable exception of their coming population crash and aging crisis. But many democratic countries face that too.