• HeuristicAlgorithm9@feddit.uk
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    4 days ago

    I genuinely cannot imagine that. It doesn’t make any sense. The only property that is a necessary condition for an egg to be a chicken egg is that it has the potential for a chicken to hatch from it. So what you are describing has an inconsistency and is therefore nonsense. Do you mean an alligator egg that looks like a chicken egg? Because if so, then it’s still an alligator egg.

    Literally the only thing that matters is that an alligator hatches from it, so it’s an alligator egg.

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      24 hours ago

      The amazing thing about imagination is it doesn’t need to be consistent or based in reality. People can typically imagine such things.

      For example, I can imagine an elephant disguised as a normal sized human in a trench coat, because within my imagination, hammerspace can exist.

      As such, I can imagine an egg that has every single property of a chicken egg; look, flavour, size, smell, colour, etc, such that it was absolutely indistinguishable from a chicken egg until it miraculously hatched an alligator. I extremely strongly suspect that the overwhelming majority of people would have understood what was meant by the thought experiment.

      And literally you’re just asserting you’re correct by fiat. The people on the other side make the exact same argument about their side. You seem to be missing that this entire dilemma hinges on the fact that there is no specific definition for “chicken egg”, so to claim you’re correct by definition is baseless afaict.

      The best argument I’ve seen so far is that the entire dilemma doesn’t even make sense since the chicken is the egg; it’s the same animal just in different phases of its life, therefore one cannot come before the other; it’d be like saying “which came first, the chicken or the other chicken?”. But that comes dangerously close to the question of when life begins, so gonna try to avoid that.

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        13 hours ago

        So I can imagine what you are describing, that is not the issue. It’s just that I would not call that a chicken egg. And I could imagine a world in which it would be, but that’s then not where we reside so it’s not relevant.

        Definition of an egg: an animal reproductive body consisting of an ovum together with its nutritive and protective envelopes and having the capacity to develop into a new individual capable of independent existence.