• pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    I really want to stress how deeply unpopular this is in the U.S. The MAGA movement is about 30% of the electorate, so you can generally expect that even the dumbest, most insane Trump decisions have a floor of 30% approval. 9% of Americans support this, 86% oppose it. At minimum, two-thirds of Trump’s most rabid, loyal followers are against this.

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      10 hours ago

      Something I’ve learned in the last decade, no matter how unpopular a position, MAGA supporters will fall in line with the party rather than risk threatening the parties authority.

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        Maybe. MAGA is fracturing right now. Withholding the Epstien files really was too much for some of them, and Marjorie Taylor Greene’s defection gave a lot of them permission to question and criticize him. Invading an ally for no reason might actually break through to good chunk of the average red hats.

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      10 hours ago

      I hope those numbers can be turned into actions to stop Trump.

      The elected officials need to be reminded what the vast majority of their voters want them to do.

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      5 hours ago

      As long as that idiot is in power those numbers mean nothing. Impeach him, vote in a new guy and then we’ll talk.

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        14 hours ago

        Well, I hate to throw cold water on that comfort, but I’m not sure the numbers matter. Trump is increasingly unresponsive to polling, even within his base, and it seems like the Pentagon really is planning an invasion. It would fracture his own MAGA movement, completely destroy NATO, make America a global pariah, and potentially start WWIII, but it seems he is seriously considering it.

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          I have nothing to base this on but some guy on the internet said that he is demanding invasion & the top brass keeps trying to talk him out of it.

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            I read an article that claimed some top Generals are trying to distract him with an invasion of Iran (which is also really, really bad). Traditional neocons certainly don’t want this, though; they don’t want to throw away 80 years of military alliances. Still, if the president tells the Pentagon, “make me a Greenland invasion plan,” they’re gonna do it.

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          14 hours ago

          Ah I’m sure he’s considering it and the planning is a given. I’m glad the bulk of Americans have some sense in this matter at least.

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            12 hours ago

            Probably as retribution to the American people for not voting for him in 2021. Such a lust for revenge