It’s a shame some people still call that genocide a “war”.
It is. How is that bad? A country is doing stuff in another with military force without consent. That’s war. (If prolonged)
No. One country, backed by all the money and weapons of the west, was given land that was stolen from palestine in 1948, then they proceeded to slowly eradicate and remove the palestinian population. Just look at maps of palestine from 1948 to today, and watch the genocides progression.
There was an international arms embargo by the USA and the UN on Israel/Palestine in 1947-48.
The Zionists bought and smuggled in surplus WW2 weapons from Czechoslovakia during that time.
There was an international arms embargo by the USA and the UN on Israel/Palestine in 1947-48.
The Zionists bought and smuggled in surplus WW2 weapons from Czechoslovakia during that time. The Soviet Union helped the Zionists, which were dominated by socialists at the time in the hopes of gaining an ally.
Between 1948 and 1967 there was no slow removal of Palestinian Arabs. Almost all of it was quite sudden in 1948. Keep in mind that Jewish Palestinians were expelled from the Jordan occupied West Bank and half of Jerusalem. Gaza was occupied by Egypt and Jews were expelled. Arab and Muslim countries persecuted and expelled their Jewish population after 1948, resulting in 800,000 to a millions Jews fleeing, many to Israel.
It’s bad because it suggests two matched belligerents. It’s like the difference between a boxing match with a skill gap, and a boxer violently murdering a child with a pretext. Also the child has been rendered physically and mentally disabled by the boxer’s previous activity. Also the boxer locks the child up and deprives it of food and water and shelter.
Not all that comparableNo it doesn’t suggest matched belligerents. Real life ain’t no sport. Falkland war is also called that.
BREAKING NEWS " Sanders calls genocide a “genocide”
There is a big narrative that loves to pick off the left-est of the left people in the US government, and come up with various bullshit reasons to criticize them. You’ll see a bunch of them down below in this thread, being negative about Bernie.
You’ll never hear this kind of argument applied anywhere else. Like, if Beto O’Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn’t see all these Lemmy comments saying “TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT” or whatever. When that handful of countries said they wouldn’t do sporting events with Israel, I didn’t see anyone commenting “YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES” or anything like that. The extensive nitpicking is only aimed at people like AOC and Bernie who are significant leftist voices in government.
If you want to know what Bernie’s been actually saying about Gaza, this is it:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVDPXtnTXUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFhcSlrJcAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dd4cg-t8j8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_AWLQ4gk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBZreokpA_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrHfsqg990
And so on. He’s been doing what most of Lemmy would like to see someone in the US Congress doing: Yelling about Israel, what a fucking horror it is, and trying to stop US military aid. This extensive nailbiting about him calling it “ethnic cleansing” instead of “genocide” is just going to get smoothly replaced by these users with some other reason to nailbite about him, definitely not with any enthusiasm or support for him. I guarantee it.
When that handful of countries said they wouldn’t do sporting events with Israel, I didn’t see anyone commenting “YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES” or anything like that.
Then you must not have been paying attention, because that was everywhere here
People get mad at Bernie because they expect better and are disappointed it took so long. No one expects better of Beto.
But even so-
Like, if Beto O’Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn’t see all these Lemmy comments saying “TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT” or whatever.
-you absolutely would lol
What a stupid take. Beto O’Rourke isn’t portraid as a civil rights champion or a leftist, he’s just a democrat. Bernie was supposed to be more, he’s supposed to be the (democratic) socialist, the left, and he’s supposedly a champion of human rights.
Except for Palestine. He reminisced his beautiful Kibbutz during an active genocide to justify it, completely ignoring his hypocrisy of building such a community by brutally stealing Palestinian land.
We don’t expect Beto to say anything, we had higher expectations for Bernie. He and AOC have let us down in our time of greatest need.
Except for Palestine. They are loud and proud about all their support for human rights and fighting for everyone, except for Palestine.
Bernie will finally call it a genocide, but he’ll go with the shifting tide of blaming Netanyahu. He won’t admit that there’s something fundamentally wrong with a religious ethno supremacist genocidal state and that the rot comes from deep within society, because his priority will be to save Jewish ISIS.
Free Palestine, from the river to the sea. Let me know when he says that.
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He and AOC have let us down in our time of greatest need.
Except for Palestine. They are loud and proud about all their support for human rights and fighting for everyone, except for Palestine.
I feel like there are a whole bunch of YouTube links up in the parent comment that you need to watch
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Yeah, pretty much.
Also:
Political alliances are bad because they would mean actually taking action. It’s much more comfortable to just sit around, criticize, and preach your moral superiority.
