My parents are lesbians, your second paragraph was my entire 12 years of school. My parents still never threatened anybody. You’re only proving my point.
Who said I threatened anybody? I just wanted them to know that I wasn’t one of those parents who allows the school system to crush their kid. You mess with my kid, abuse him, try to indoctrinate him into cults, send him to the hospital because of a negligent teacher, you’re going to have to look me in the eye and explain it to me.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with letting a public servant know they are being monitored, and that you are willing to go above their head if they refuse to do their job. It’s our responsibility as citizens. I wasn’t just helping my son in every one of those situations, I was helping out every other student that was dealing with those same abusive teachers, including kids like you. You wouldn’t have done well in that Jehovah Witness class.
Defending your child, and insisting a government employee do their job isn’t a threat. Maybe this is why my second paragraph was your entire existence - because your parents didn’t stand up for you, or themselves.
My son grew up knowing his parents had his back, and would fight for his rights as a student, and he was never afraid to bring anything to us. To this day, we are best friends, so I’ll take my method over anyone else’s.
I’m gonna end this conversation right here. Because now you’re just being an asshole. The fact that you’re assuming that I have a worse relationship with my parents than you have with your son because my parents didn’t act like you did tells me everything I need to know about your personality. I hope I never meet you or anybody like you.
You said you had trouble in school, and your parents didn’t back you up. Don’t be mad at me because I did.
I didn’t say you had a bad relationship with your parents, I just said that my relationship with my son was strong because he had confidence in my support for him, who happens to be gay, as well. You made the leap that I also meant that your relationship was worse, which I certainly didn’t intend. Plenty of people have good relationships with parents who weren’t as supportive as I was, myself included.
My parents didn’t give a shit what happened to me at school. I just better bring home a good report card, with no excuses. Bullying by teachers or students was my problem to work out. I just decided that my son wasn’t going to get thrown to the wolves like that.
I’m sure you have a great relationship with your parents. There are other valid methods of dealing with public schools, but our situation meant that I had to monitor the situation closely, for good reasons.
My final point is: Don’t expect a good public school education to happen. You have to coach it along, not just with the student, but also the school, teachers, and administrators. You are the taxpayer, you are the boss, and you have every right as a citizen to expect a proper education for your kid. Demand it, and make it happen, and don’t worry about being POLITE
I said my parents didn’t threaten anybody. That’s very different than not backing me up. Thus just further proving what I said about your personality. Seriously goodbye.
I don’t think your parents not intervening necessarily reflects badly upon them; I can only imagine being parents of a sapphic nature comes with its share of difficulties, much as I imagine being the child of such parents would make you a target to teachers and schoolmates alike. It’s quite understandable that they should not want to add the burden of being the “confrontational” parents, both to you and to themselves.
Still, it is odd to denounce a parent standing up for their child as “threatening”. I agree that the other person’s initial comment came off as possibly being the rantings of a deranged helicopter parent. However, if their second comment, to which you replied, is to be believed, I find their objections to be just and right.
I have many friends who teach as their trade; I’ve no doubt that the plight of educators at the hand of undignant parents is more oft than not of a ridiculous nature; parents being very protective of their offspring. Yet we must not perceive this tendency as eternally true, as yet some are amongst the educators who should abuse the trust of old between master and pupil.
(Sorry I’m stoned and have been reading a lot of Tolkien recently; so I started replying, a bit subconsciously, in his style. I put too much into it to delete it, so please forgive my indulgent follies)
I didn’t say my parents didn’t intervene, I said they didn’t make threats. And I’m not denouncing a parent standing up for their child as threatening, I’m denouncing the person I replied to as specifically being threatening. Because I have the impression of them that you do from their first comment, I have a hard time not believing their second isn’t exaggeration. Or the very least not leaving out many of the details. As my grandma used to say there are two sides to every story. I also have family and friends who teach for a living, and I’ve heard stories like this from both sides.
Yes, I’m sure there are some bad teachers out there. But I don’t feel that means we should all stoop to the level of threatening public servants and as the other person said refusing to be polite. Especially given that most of these teachers are being asked to teach sometimes as many as twice the number of students that they can reasonably be expected to pay attention to just for starters. Not to mention how many of them are paying for school supplies out of their pocket.
This person’s approach is the equivalent of percussive maintenance on a broken system, very rarely effective in the long-term.
My parents are lesbians, your second paragraph was my entire 12 years of school. My parents still never threatened anybody. You’re only proving my point.
Who said I threatened anybody? I just wanted them to know that I wasn’t one of those parents who allows the school system to crush their kid. You mess with my kid, abuse him, try to indoctrinate him into cults, send him to the hospital because of a negligent teacher, you’re going to have to look me in the eye and explain it to me.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with letting a public servant know they are being monitored, and that you are willing to go above their head if they refuse to do their job. It’s our responsibility as citizens. I wasn’t just helping my son in every one of those situations, I was helping out every other student that was dealing with those same abusive teachers, including kids like you. You wouldn’t have done well in that Jehovah Witness class.
You did, in your first sentence of your first post and again just now in your second paragraph.
Defending your child, and insisting a government employee do their job isn’t a threat. Maybe this is why my second paragraph was your entire existence - because your parents didn’t stand up for you, or themselves.
My son grew up knowing his parents had his back, and would fight for his rights as a student, and he was never afraid to bring anything to us. To this day, we are best friends, so I’ll take my method over anyone else’s.
I’m gonna end this conversation right here. Because now you’re just being an asshole. The fact that you’re assuming that I have a worse relationship with my parents than you have with your son because my parents didn’t act like you did tells me everything I need to know about your personality. I hope I never meet you or anybody like you.
You said you had trouble in school, and your parents didn’t back you up. Don’t be mad at me because I did.
I didn’t say you had a bad relationship with your parents, I just said that my relationship with my son was strong because he had confidence in my support for him, who happens to be gay, as well. You made the leap that I also meant that your relationship was worse, which I certainly didn’t intend. Plenty of people have good relationships with parents who weren’t as supportive as I was, myself included.
My parents didn’t give a shit what happened to me at school. I just better bring home a good report card, with no excuses. Bullying by teachers or students was my problem to work out. I just decided that my son wasn’t going to get thrown to the wolves like that.
I’m sure you have a great relationship with your parents. There are other valid methods of dealing with public schools, but our situation meant that I had to monitor the situation closely, for good reasons.
My final point is: Don’t expect a good public school education to happen. You have to coach it along, not just with the student, but also the school, teachers, and administrators. You are the taxpayer, you are the boss, and you have every right as a citizen to expect a proper education for your kid. Demand it, and make it happen, and don’t worry about being POLITE
I said my parents didn’t threaten anybody. That’s very different than not backing me up. Thus just further proving what I said about your personality. Seriously goodbye.
I don’t think your parents not intervening necessarily reflects badly upon them; I can only imagine being parents of a sapphic nature comes with its share of difficulties, much as I imagine being the child of such parents would make you a target to teachers and schoolmates alike. It’s quite understandable that they should not want to add the burden of being the “confrontational” parents, both to you and to themselves.
Still, it is odd to denounce a parent standing up for their child as “threatening”. I agree that the other person’s initial comment came off as possibly being the rantings of a deranged helicopter parent. However, if their second comment, to which you replied, is to be believed, I find their objections to be just and right.
I have many friends who teach as their trade; I’ve no doubt that the plight of educators at the hand of undignant parents is more oft than not of a ridiculous nature; parents being very protective of their offspring. Yet we must not perceive this tendency as eternally true, as yet some are amongst the educators who should abuse the trust of old between master and pupil.
(Sorry I’m stoned and have been reading a lot of Tolkien recently; so I started replying, a bit subconsciously, in his style. I put too much into it to delete it, so please forgive my indulgent follies)
I didn’t say my parents didn’t intervene, I said they didn’t make threats. And I’m not denouncing a parent standing up for their child as threatening, I’m denouncing the person I replied to as specifically being threatening. Because I have the impression of them that you do from their first comment, I have a hard time not believing their second isn’t exaggeration. Or the very least not leaving out many of the details. As my grandma used to say there are two sides to every story. I also have family and friends who teach for a living, and I’ve heard stories like this from both sides.
Yes, I’m sure there are some bad teachers out there. But I don’t feel that means we should all stoop to the level of threatening public servants and as the other person said refusing to be polite. Especially given that most of these teachers are being asked to teach sometimes as many as twice the number of students that they can reasonably be expected to pay attention to just for starters. Not to mention how many of them are paying for school supplies out of their pocket.
This person’s approach is the equivalent of percussive maintenance on a broken system, very rarely effective in the long-term.